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Session Start (Yahoo! - phil_bishop2002:anyla_walker): Tue Apr 22 11:10:06 2003
phil_bishop2002: morning...
anyla_walker: hey darlin
anyla_walker: whats up?
phil_bishop2002: nuthin new
anyla_walker: aww :(
anyla_walker: *huggles*
anyla_walker: everything ok?
phil_bishop2002: sorta... I guess
anyla_walker: you guess? whats wrong?
phil_bishop2002: just out of it...
anyla_walker: can I help?
phil_bishop2002: maybe
phil_bishop2002: don't know yet
phil_bishop2002: we'll see
anyla_walker: ok...I can kidnap you or sumthing
phil_bishop2002: maybe later
anyla_walker: alright...let me know
phil_bishop2002: will do
anyla_walker: waiting on word of my car
phil_bishop2002: anyideas yet?
anyla_walker: on the car?
phil_bishop2002: did ya here anything about it, when ya dropped it off?
anyla_walker: yea...they had to order a new rim, look to see if the tire is messed up and if any other damager
phil_bishop2002: hope it's nuthin big...
anyla_walker: me too
anyla_walker: but if it is...it is *shrug* I got better things to worry about
phil_bishop2002: yeah... like jamil
anyla_walker: yup
anyla_walker: he is mad at me again
phil_bishop2002: yeah, I saw his post...
anyla_walker: I answered...unfortuantly...I was pissy in it becuase I thought I was at least trying by showing up...oh well
anyla_walker: back to the cycle of lets hurt each other
phil_bishop2002: yup yup
anyla_walker: :( *hugs* it'll get better I hope
phil_bishop2002: well, maybe... noly time will tell
anyla_walker: maybe?
phil_bishop2002: nobody knows, only ti,me will tell...
phil_bishop2002: a lot is up to him
anyla_walker: yea, me too
anyla_walker: the game was intresting tho
phil_bishop2002: well, that's good
anyla_walker: *pet,hug, and all those other things that supposed to make people feel better*
phil_bishop2002: well, I don't feel "bad", just, not right
anyla_walker: oh well...*shrug* it may still work
anyla_walker: me and ann going to faire on sun, if yall want to go
phil_bishop2002: prolly not...
anyla_walker: ok...
anyla_walker: thought I would at least ask
phil_bishop2002: just don't want to go out looking like the tall sex dwarf, ya know?
anyla_walker: I still dont understand why you call yourself that
phil_bishop2002: when I am dressed in what's letft oif my gear, that's what I look like... all I need is for someone to say, bring out the gimp, before I show up
anyla_walker: I havent seen the gear, but I have seen the way woman, and some men look at you hon....and I realllly doubt gimp is in their mind, more like lust
phil_bishop2002: no no no... gimp is an s&m term...
anyla_walker: oh...
anyla_walker: that is a bad thing?
phil_bishop2002: well, sorta... think the "gimp" from Pulp Fiction...
phil_bishop2002: ya know, leather man...
anyla_walker: i'm gonna need to see this to see how you are thinking you in leather is a bad thing
phil_bishop2002: leather is good, too much leather, IS possible...
phil_bishop2002: especially when you are trying to hit a ren garb style...
anyla_walker: then/...dont wear too much?
anyla_walker: or maybe I am just not understanding something here...
phil_bishop2002: all I have left, ren garb wise, is stuff that will only work, if I ad my leather to it... which is very modern in style...
phil_bishop2002: add the two together, gimp leather man, loking for someone to dominate him... not me at all...
phil_bishop2002: no 15th century, either
anyla_walker: ah...
anyla_walker: lemme guess, not the type to go plain colthes?
anyla_walker: can I bite my supervior?
phil_bishop2002: no plain clothes, and, no, no bitting
anyla_walker: damn....now i've thought about it I really do want to bite something
phil_bishop2002: ummm, keyboard?
anyla_walker: umm...too hard
phil_bishop2002: ummm, well, I don't know...
anyla_walker: aww well...i'll settle on biting my lip
phil_bishop2002: ha... for now at least, but, just you watch out keyboard!
anyla_walker: lol
anyla_walker: think I would go after my phone before keyboard tho
phil_bishop2002: true, what did the keyboard ever do to you?
anyla_walker: it looked at me funny
phil_bishop2002: grrrrrr
phil_bishop2002: but the phone brings you customers... your true source of pain
anyla_walker: O.o....true
anyla_walker: btw...the keyboard thanks you
phil_bishop2002: heh
anyla_walker: :p
anyla_walker: smokey treat!!!
anyla_walker: whee...that was fun...yep, highlight of my day
phil_bishop2002: heh
anyla_walker: looking security jobs
phil_bishop2002: really?
anyla_walker: yes
anyla_walker: sounded surpised
phil_bishop2002: well, why the intrest?
anyla_walker: honestly, becuase it isnt phone support
phil_bishop2002: gotcha
anyla_walker: i'm burned out or if not buring out
phil_bishop2002: yeah, it happens to all of us
anyla_walker: yup....sucks
phil_bishop2002: way the job works...
phil_bishop2002: a threat we all face, cause a modern "change" to management style of the industry hasn't occured yet...
anyla_walker: dont know about that, I just know I have no love for this anymore....
phil_bishop2002: yup yup...
anyla_walker: crawling into my bed and not coming out hasnt not looked this good in a while
phil_bishop2002: heh, know how that feels...
anyla_walker: *grin* ok...that was a bad thought
anyla_walker: thought that went through my mind was, let us all just crawl in bed and hide together
phil_bishop2002: yup yup
anyla_walker: think that wouold go over?
phil_bishop2002: ummmm prolly not..."ummm, Mr. Manager type person, can I take off today to go crawl in bed with a lot of people?"...
anyla_walker: heh...dont think he could say anything tho
anyla_walker: it would be one of those stunned silences and I could escape
phil_bishop2002: might not keep your job tho...
anyla_walker: true...but I am really starting to wonder if I care...I know that sounds stupid but I am begining to think I would sacrfice alot to be outta
anyla_walker: here
phil_bishop2002: well, not till ya got somwhere else to go... don't get trapped like the rest of us...
anyla_walker: I know that logically :)
anyla_walker: yay! cup o noddles for lunch
phil_bishop2002: noddle noodle noodle, I made it out of clay... with noodle noodle noodle, with noodle I will play...
anyla_walker: lol
phil_bishop2002: listening to Tori all day doesn't bode well for my m9indset...
anyla_walker: no hon it doesnt...not at all
anyla_walker: change music?
phil_bishop2002: just did, goodbye tori, heelo ska
phil_bishop2002: hopefully it works
anyla_walker: yay!
anyla_walker: bouncy phil is good
phil_bishop2002: we will see
anyla_walker: I know, but I can hope
phil_bishop2002: so can I
anyla_walker: we can drive to mexico :) pretty sure they wouldnt try and repo my car there
phil_bishop2002: heh
phil_bishop2002: I don't want to stop in mexico tho...
anyla_walker: ok, we drive through mexico then
anyla_walker: where you want to go?
phil_bishop2002: ummmm, don't know?
phil_bishop2002: asutrallia maybe
anyla_walker: umm...cant drive there
phil_bishop2002: no not aussy land, their laws have gotten weird
anyla_walker: lol
anyla_walker: brazil?
anyla_walker: 'cause I aint going to canada
phil_bishop2002: no, no canada
anyla_walker: so we go south...onward explorers
phil_bishop2002: heh, riiiight
anyla_walker: hey...we could do it
anyla_walker: setup shop on a moutain top...*wise nod* yes...be mighty...something
phil_bishop2002: hell, I always kinda wanted a spread, 'bout 200 acres, all mine, central Texas, brush country...
anyla_walker: well...then subisute moutian for brush country and all set :)
phil_bishop2002: heh...
anyla_walker: hey...sounds fun to me
anyla_walker: how much would that cost anyway?
phil_bishop2002: ummm, alot... lottery winning kind of money
anyla_walker: hrm...that sucks
phil_bishop2002: yup yup, why I haven't done it all ready...
anyla_walker: i'd be happy right now if I just had a place to call my own
phil_bishop2002: true
anyla_walker: yup
anyla_walker: thinking of seeing if when my bro moves in with his girl if I can tag along
phil_bishop2002: really? think you could tsnad living like that?
anyla_walker: gotta do something
phil_bishop2002: I mean, sooner or later, you ARE gonna have to hear you brother making the "O" face with little miss, and, that can't be a pleasent thing to hear
anyla_walker: that is true
anyla_walker: but living at home is driving me insane
phil_bishop2002: yeah
phil_bishop2002: brb
anyla_walker: ok
anyla_walker: working
anyla_walker: oh crap, wrong window, sorry hon
phil_bishop2002: no biggie
anyla_walker: cool
anyla_walker: getting bouncy...this is weird
phil_bishop2002: bouncy is good, right?
anyla_walker: it is good, but I am still pissy, just kinda of a happy bouncy pissy
phil_bishop2002: wow, that's gotta feeel wierd
anyla_walker: it does
anyla_walker: >-)
anyla_walker: whee../..how you doin?
phil_bishop2002: talkin with Mila, searching for info on a place in Sherman...
anyla_walker: still planing on it?
phil_bishop2002: nope, something else
anyla_walker: color me confused then
anyla_walker: you are looking for a place in sherman, but not planning on moving there?
phil_bishop2002: looking for historical info...
phil_bishop2002: pbs is doing a series on local "forgotten" landmarks
anyla_walker: ahhh, see unconfused now
anyla_walker: anything good?
phil_bishop2002: well, maybe...
phil_bishop2002: a place in sherman that is over 100 years old, full of stories(most of them creepy at the least, down right evil in places) and not even mentioned on maps of the area anymore, even tho it is a large, 5 building complex...
anyla_walker: ooooohhhh
anyla_walker: really?
phil_bishop2002: wood's home... woodman circle, the place has had many names... as if the names would distance it from it's own past...
anyla_walker: sounds like a place to check out
phil_bishop2002: I have, a couple of times
phil_bishop2002: once with a medicine man from Oklahoma...
phil_bishop2002: he had, "interesting" things to say about the grounds...
anyla_walker: oh really, like?
phil_bishop2002: he sang things that night I had never heard, and danced in ways I had never seen...
phil_bishop2002: then, the cops showed up, and, we were escorted off premise
phil_bishop2002: that's the weird thing, people will allways get chased off premise, but, no EVERY has charges filled, cause if they were, you would have a right to face your accuser in court, but, the owners have never "owned up" to who they are
phil_bishop2002: soooooooo
phil_bishop2002: weird place
anyla_walker: hmm...woods home or cirlce right?
phil_bishop2002: orphanage, hotel, veterens hospital(after the CIVIL WAR!), veterans hospital again in the 20's,old folks home, bunch of stuff
phil_bishop2002: right
anyla_walker: I may take a drive tonight
phil_bishop2002: ummmm, no
phil_bishop2002: don't mess with the place
anyla_walker: not gonna mess with it
anyla_walker: just want to...see
phil_bishop2002: not much to see, unless ya hit the grounds... you really want to jusyt do a drive by?
phil_bishop2002: I am up for it, if that is all we do...
anyla_walker: cool
anyla_walker: i'm curious
phil_bishop2002: ok...
anyla_walker: looking up info
phil_bishop2002: good luck...
anyla_walker: found something...I think
anyla_walker: well...n/m
phil_bishop2002: what???
anyla_walker: something called grayson county texas index of landmarks and vaished communities
phil_bishop2002: not a landmark, even tho it dates to somewhere in the 1880's... built same time as Asutin college...
anyla_walker: no...woodman circle is listed
phil_bishop2002: it may have a different name, IF listed at all... location is old highway 56 (now houston street) and FM 1417 in Sherman...
anyla_walker: tyring to get a location...got a map...lotta good that does
phil_bishop2002: yup yup... the road the "campus" is on, no longer shows up on public maps... which means, the road is privately owned...
phil_bishop2002: This is a collection of stories told by Maggie, a young girl who spent most of her youth at an orphanage in Sherman, a town in far North Texas
phil_bishop2002: snippet from a catalog listing for an old bok...
phil_bishop2002: bok
phil_bishop2002: book that is
phil_bishop2002: I think my "O" key is broken...
anyla_walker: suck
phil_bishop2002: High on a Windy Hill is the title, only problem, I wouldn't say the place we are looking for is on a hil...
phil_bishop2002: and, there were many goverment institutions in sherman, till the 50's...
anyla_walker: hmm.?
phil_bishop2002: sherman was officially founded in 1848 or some damn year, soo, there has been a LOT of things "dumped" out on Sherman, cause it was there, and, it was a county seat...
anyla_walker: true
phil_bishop2002: I need to hit a library... hrrrmmm
phil_bishop2002: Margery Eldridge is the writer's name...
anyla_walker: think anyone would have it?
phil_bishop2002: maybe...
anyla_walker: to figure out if it is the same place?
phil_bishop2002: yup yup
phil_bishop2002: may have the right name...
anyla_walker: nice
phil_bishop2002: brb
anyla_walker: ok
phil_bishop2002: dallas central office has a copy... and it is listed a reference, no requestable...
phil_bishop2002: that means it can't be removed from the building...
anyla_walker: aww damn
phil_bishop2002: but, I read fast enough to devour it fast... it is only 87 pages...
phil_bishop2002: I can at least use it to pull info from...
anyla_walker: that aint bad, but I was hoping to look at it
phil_bishop2002: it might not be about "THE" place... ya know?
anyla_walker: I know, but it is close in descrpiton
phil_bishop2002: sort of...I don't know if it was on a "hill" back in the late 20's early 30"s... when the author was there...
anyla_walker: only one way to find out
phil_bishop2002: yup yup... gotta run to the library... prolly take the train down here in a couple of minutes... gotta go fast...
anyla_walker: later hon
phil_bishop2002: in a bit...
anyla_walker: thought you said you had to go fast?
phil_bishop2002: yeah, but, I need to find out if I can hit the library by train
anyla_walker: lol
anyla_walker: ahhh
anyla_walker: brb, smoke if you are gone when I get back, I will talk to you when you get back, oh and are you serious about going out there tonight?
phil_bishop2002: if you are...
Session Start (Yahoo! - phil_bishop2002:anyla_walker): Tue Apr 22 17:43:26 2003
phil_bishop2002: woodmen's circle
anyla_walker: so the book was on it?
phil_bishop2002: woodmen circle insurrance company had control of it between the mid 20's and late 50's...
phil_bishop2002: yup yup... and what do ya know, it is on a hill, I just didn't realuise it, because of the landscaking around it, that allowed for apts to be made near it...
anyla_walker: O.o
anyla_walker: so what was the book?
phil_bishop2002: tales from a girl that was there, with her little sister, and big brother, during some of the "good" times...
phil_bishop2002: course, she does talk about one of the wings that no one went into...
phil_bishop2002: and, this is a large complex, that, according to her, only had 25 resident children in it... the wings are big enough to hold 3 times that each...
anyla_walker: hmmm....
anyla_walker: intresting
phil_bishop2002: yup
anyla_walker: heh...all excted and stuff
phil_bishop2002: about?
anyla_walker: going to see it
phil_bishop2002: woodmen circle home, constructed in 26, according to the insurrance company, for orphans and the aged...
phil_bishop2002: riiiiight
phil_bishop2002: building an extra room or 2 does not mean you built it all...
anyla_walker: heh
anyla_walker: nope
phil_bishop2002: they are saying 30-38 for construction of all of it... weird
phil_bishop2002: pics from sherman show it at turn of the century... curious, no?
anyla_walker: er...just a little, so who aint claimin what?
phil_bishop2002: well, they are saying they added floors to the wings as late as 38...
phil_bishop2002: that makes NO sense...
phil_bishop2002: do you know how hard it is to "add" flors to an exsisting building that is as big as a millitary barracks building?
anyla_walker: not really actually, but I will take your word for it
phil_bishop2002: they say they added an infimerary as late as 56... riiiiiight
phil_bishop2002: 'course, the company has pics of all there other buildings, but, not the circlehome...
anyla_walker: weird
phil_bishop2002: but, they do mention having "serveral" youth camps all over texas during the 30's and 40's...
phil_bishop2002: you know anything about the "youth camps" during the depression???
anyla_walker: no
phil_bishop2002: spooooky stuff man
anyla_walker: what are they youth camps?
phil_bishop2002: thin POW camp, and you are getting close...
anyla_walker: fuck
phil_bishop2002: without the Geneva convention and red cross to insure proper treatment...
anyla_walker: bleeding hell....
phil_bishop2002: yup yup
anyla_walker: and to their own kids....thats fucked
phil_bishop2002: (Link: http://txgenes.com/TxPostcards/Towns/Sherman/HomeForAgedAndChildrenShermanTx.jpg)http://txgenes.com/TxPostcards/Towns/Sherman/HomeForAgedAndChildrenShermanTx.jpg
phil_bishop2002: (Link: http://txgenes.com/TxPostcards/Towns/Sherman/ShermanWOWHome1938.jpg)http://txgenes.com/TxPostcards/Towns/Sherman/ShermanWOWHome1938.jpg
anyla_walker: brb smoke
anyla_walker: bak
phil_bishop2002: those pics don't match what the insurrance company says...
anyla_walker: so why are they saying it?
phil_bishop2002: no idea...
phil_bishop2002: but, youth camps and homes got HUGE stipends form the goverment for what they were doing...
phil_bishop2002: dollars per square footage and number of children, that kind of thing...
phil_bishop2002: with no real "rules" for how many sqaure foot per child, in regards to living space and things like that...
anyla_walker: yea...
phil_bishop2002: but, they got big payoffs for numbers of children, and, how big they were, soooooooooo, the "norm" was kids stacked on top of each other... like a POW camp, without the Geneva convention rules...
anyla_walker: yea...I can see that...greed is a powerful factor
phil_bishop2002: soooo, it makes no sens for them to report 25 kids total, when, the wings were big enough for 25 kids per floor, per wing
phil_bishop2002: 3 wings, 3-5 floors each...
phil_bishop2002: 2 outlaying buildings, and the main lobby-hall, soooooo
phil_bishop2002: the book did make a mention of the older brother and his friends working wheat harvest, so that fits...
phil_bishop2002: youth labor was a BIG payout enteprise for the youth camp programs...
phil_bishop2002: need some farm hands? don't want to pay 'em? call us
phil_bishop2002: one of the big changes in the 40's was making the camps and orphanages send the kids to public schols in the area...
phil_bishop2002: only if it was a catholic orphanage was it different, but, that was because the catholic schols were usually attached to the orphanages, and, were seen as "public" schools, 'cuase they allowed outside enrollment
anyla_walker: ok..?
phil_bishop2002: well, the outside schooling thing was what broke up the youth camps and orphanages of that time period the most...
phil_bishop2002: kind hearted teachers(imagine that) steppin in, and "saving" the kids from the treatment they were recieving...
phil_bishop2002: which, is prolly why the woodmen circle home became an old folks home by the 50's...
anyla_walker: alright
phil_bishop2002: just, the author made mention of starting to go to sherman public schools, and noticing how unrully and misbahaved the other kids were, like they "didn't know regualr punishment..."
phil_bishop2002: that, and being told not to hug orphanage workers when visitors were around, unless the workers said it was ok, before the visitors showed up...
anyla_walker: so...beatings, farming the kdis out, most likely malnourishment and other types of abuse
phil_bishop2002: the other is always the worst...
anyla_walker: yea...tried to skirt with saying other types
phil_bishop2002: yeah...
anyla_walker: but why werent they claiming more kids?
anyla_walker: that's gonna bug me...
phil_bishop2002: no idea... that is the "big" annomoly...
phil_bishop2002: no reason, no matter how "good" a foundation was running it, to not have more than that...
phil_bishop2002: and, to have one of the former "residents" talk about only 25 total, but, with wings they weren't allowed to go into, it makes me wonder, ya know?
anyla_walker: what was going on there
phil_bishop2002: no idea
anyla_walker: well...not really cause I can imagine
phil_bishop2002: part of why it is sooooo easy to have paronia and fable take hold of its history...
phil_bishop2002: no real info, nobody will talk, or, is left alive, due to how long ago it was, soo, people have to peice things together from what little remains, paperwork wise...
anyla_walker: yea
anyla_walker: how you want to do this tonight?
phil_bishop2002: no idea...
phil_bishop2002: you really want to do the drive tonight?
anyla_walker: yea
phil_bishop2002: better during the day...
phil_bishop2002: well, better to see things during the day
phil_bishop2002: easier to be scared by it at night
anyla_walker: if I am scared by it, daylight wont help it
anyla_walker: if you dont want to go, just let me know how to get there?
phil_bishop2002: true... well, I have no probs with doing a drive by... hell, I could show you the "sites" of sherman(LOL), but, we ain't walking the grounds of the place, ya know?
anyla_walker: I know
anyla_walker: already agree to that :P
phil_bishop2002: if you want to, then gas up, come get me, and we roll
anyla_walker: I will do so, gotta stop in mckinney tho, gotta grab my car
phil_bishop2002: gotcha... I will be here
anyla_walker: cool
phil_bishop2002: gonna watch the debate, see ya later...
anyla_walker: later
Session Close (anyla_walker): Tue Apr 22 18:56:26 2003