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Apr. 22nd, 2004 04:00 pm
[personal profile] lolotehe

Analya: Hey
Lilchiva: Hello
Analya: Sorry I didn’t call, Gadik canceled this morning then I slept like the dead until it was time to go to work. Did you get my message?
Lilchiva: No what’s up?
Analya: Talked to Asmoduce this morning. Told him that he was fucking up and he needed to do something about it
Lilchiva: You want to call me and tell me?
Analya: Maybe in a bit, I just got off of work and the phones. It didn’t go too well though
Lilchiva: Right on. What happened? I spoke to him last night
Analya: I heard
Lilchiva: Oh? And a bit today
Analya: Dunno what about, but when I asked him why he hadn’t sent me his resume he asked if I was responsible for you showing up
Lilchiva: He seems to think that I am the only person who told him any of this
Analya: When did you talk to him today?
Lilchiva: He is like these people are supposed to be my friends and hey being cowards "if this is true." something like that. I was going to go see him, but some shit blew up at the house
Analya: We have told him that he needs to do something but maybe we were too nice about it. I certainly wasn’t this morning so maybe it got through...I know I got him damn angry. He accused me of thinking his past was a lie like you and Lolo when I said he needs to be the man that he is always going on about being or something like that
Lilchiva: Yea well here’s what happened I came down on him real hard. I busted him on his past and the image he created of himself. Look, Asmoduce has never done half the things he talks about but he makes it a part of himself. I don’t care
Lilchiva: It’s like this either I have a friend or don’t
Analya: I know
Lilchiva: Either he is going to get it or not
Analya: Sending mine now. And while I know this goes against my rules, I don’t want “he said she said” bullshit
Lilchiva: it’s not my problem. I love Asmoduce and care for him, I don’t hate anyone. Look, I know we aren’t cool, he and I, haven’t been probably ever. I knew Asmoduce didn’t like me
Analya: no he does, but I’m pretty sure he is telling people the same shit about me right now. How does he react when a friend calls him on his shit? He attacks them and so on
Lilchiva: no, I told him that you and Florenge and Gadik have voiced this to me though Florenge briefly. He won’t be honest. That’s the whole thing. He is lucky I didn't tell him what Pat told me
Analya: which part of it are you talking about?
Lilchiva: the whole thing
Analya: did he say in there no one had said anything? What about Pat? I know Pat is disgusted with him
Lilchiva: yea and this, see, Pat knows about the marines
Analya: what about it?
Lilchiva: Asmoduce washed out of boot camp
Analya: ? I know he washed out
Lilchiva: he never completed it. Read the log. Do a search for the word Marine
Analya: never left the country?
Lilchiva: nope. If you don’t believe Lolo or me, ask his dad
Analya: I knew the story about Japan was bullshit cause when I met his folks they talked to him about the flak jacket his dad sent to him from Korea
Lilchiva: Want to know what other petty facts I know? See. It's all been mostly a fabrication, that’s part of the problem. He can't do or be what he has built himself up to be, and he's lost Lolo. What are you going to do with that? Rebuild yourself
Analya: how much of it is a lie, Chiva?
Lilchiva: ask me something
Analya: I don’t know what...I mean is it all a lie?
Lilchiva: a lot of it. If it happened 5+ years ago chances are good it’s bogus. I mean not all of it but a lot of it. That's why I say, ask me something
Analya: I don’t know what to ask about, cause my mind went kind of blank with the whole lying thing
Lilchiva: well I can kind of see that, but you, me, and Lolo talked about all this. There is very little new here except some details I could give you
Analya: not that it was a lie that blown up and stuff but not an outright lie
Lilchiva: no much of it is an out and out lie. Some of it's blown up, some of it is true
Analya: if it didn’t happen then it is an out and out lie
Lilchiva: Let me ask you, you ever see a prom picture or a football photo?
Analya: nope, said he destroyed them or something
Lilchiva: Ask Jeremy what Asmoduce knows about cars. I mean, don’t implicate the boy, but ask. And put it together. I don’t know what else to say. You read the log?
Analya: why? What is there to gain from doing what he has done? Someone was bound to catch on...stupid me, I didn’t
Lilchiva: It's like him telling Pat and Gadik that he told me not to buy the bike. He told me to buy it and talked me out of buying a better one for a grand less. So I spent 1500 on a bike I can’t ride
Analya: sonofabitch
Lilchiva: with things wrong with it, that someone of Asmoduce's supposed knowledge would know about, like the rust on the undercarriage. All in all, Asmoduce has not been a good friend to me in regards to honesty, truth, and personal responsibility
Analya: sounds like. Who else knows that he/his past is mostly fabrication?
Lilchiva: Lolo, people and me that don’t talk to him anymore. Dart Probably. You might get something out of Dart if you’re looking
Analya: nah, she don’t like me too much
Lilchiva: Tori knows about some events. Bishop would as well. Anyone from Sector 12. I am of the general opinion that most things Sector-12 and before are crap
Analya: I can verify some things at sector 12 but I wasn’t there all the time
Lilchiva: right some. things are true others no. It’s like Jenn Johnson. Good woman. She knows a lot
Analya: don’t know her
Lilchiva: she lived with him, met her through him, she won’t have anything to do with him. Keith and Shae
Analya: I heard about them, said hi to Shae a couple of times when she was talking to him
Lilchiva: She? Oh well, you have to ask yourself, how important that is to you. if it is, then you’re bound to be rudely disappointed
Analya: it is important to me...very important...we've talked about it, remember?
Lilchiva: yea, but let ask you does that diminish your experiences with him the truth of your interaction? I mean, does that obliterate the entire thing? Being there for you and all that?
Analya: yea...because if the person I believed I was interacting with wasn’t that person it does and not it doesn’t erase him being there for me
Lilchiva: See, it doesn’t for me. I can be pissed about things he has or hasn’t done that have affected me or diminished him
Analya: I don’t know Chiva...I just don’t know
Lilchiva: well, it’s your choice/decision etc. If this matters too much to you, don’t pursue it. I don’t know what else to say. I don’t want you or Asmoduce to lose your friendship over this
Analya: it comes down to some simple things, can I trust when he says that he hasn’t slept with anyone other than me in however long? No, it isn’t I want him to be mine and mine only, but we have an agreement, since we do sleep together on a regular basis, that we would say if we had, so they other could decide if it was acceptable to continue sleeping with each other
Lilchiva: that would be punk. I am pretty sure that, as of this moment, you can
Analya: can I trust that he gets tested?
Lilchiva: I dunno, what’s the deal on that?
Analya: if he hasn’t been tested and if any of the amount of people he says he slept with is true, then he could have something and, in turn, I get it. I have been tested but some shit don’t show up for long time
Lilchiva: I don’t think he has slept with nearly that many people
Analya: doubt it, but it takes one, and if lies about getting tested? Sorry Chiva...you don’t have the answers on this. Sorry for dumping on you
Lilchiva: No, I understand. I am pretty sure that he hasn’t been tested in the last year. I mean, you could ask Lolo on that. She controlled the finances and most of the time they were married they had the one car.
Analya: er...well I actually I can’t since she won’t talk to me
Lilchiva: see, he never got tested when they went to Planned Parenthood. I know that, I know that he got tested early in their relationship. she would talk to you about that. I’ll tell her. I could be wrong, but I don’t think he has tested since maybe the insurance thing, cause they may have had blood drawn for that, but he hates doctors
Analya: don’t give a shit...there are some things you do even if you hate, cause you could fuck someone else.
Lilchiva: right I know, but my point here is, I don’t have the answer, my gut feeling is no, what little I know in regards to that tells me so
Analya: Got a question...he ever tell you about my miscarriage? Kind of curious as what he tells others
Lilchiva: well the last time I spoke with him about it was probably over a year ago and that was one of those group discussion thingy’s
Analya: oh really?
Lilchiva: yea you know like discussing herpes or something
Analya: he didn’t want me discussing it
Lilchiva: whole group of people, not about you two. Discussing what? The two of you?
Analya: no the whole miscarriage thing
Lilchiva: NO!
Analya: ?
Lilchiva: he didn’t tell me about the miscarriage. I know you had an abortion a while back like years ago, when did you have a miscarriage?
Analya: I never had an abortion. I drank a lot and did some drugs before I knew
Lilchiva: ok, wait, then what’s the story about Kim going with you to the clinic?
Analya: what story?
Lilchiva: call me call me or let’s get coffee or something
Analya: IHOP?
Lilchiva: I suppose
Analya: Okay. Be there in a bit
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